AJ Fosik’s studio reminds me of the parts room at an auto supply super store. Sometimes the piece you need already exists on the shelf. Parts from started and stopped sculptures as well as tried ideas that just didn’t work in the hoped way. At some point the puzzle will be solved. There is a piece to be found or made in order to come up with these fantastic beasts. Roaring dust collectors, hissing compressors, drills, saws, fumes: after all, it is a factory.
You have had a busy year that seems to not be slowing down. Here is the tally: First show in Tokyo, art installation for Music Fest North West, commissions, commercial work as well as an upcoming show in Paris and Art Basel in Miami. The pressure is on and the ideas have to keep coming. What’s that process like?
Who knows? The idea process is a mix of inspiration, drudgery, drive, excitement, stress, and mystery. I go from being so sick of my own work that I don’t even want to turn on a saw, to so manic and stoked to make something, that I ignore everything else in my life to my own detriment. The one thing I’ve learned is to just keeping working. Having unstoppable drive trumps inspiration every time.
I doubt we will ever see you doing a guest DJ set at a club, appearing on a reality TV show or any of that other pop culture nonsense that now surrounds the art world. You are married, have an awesome wife and son, and a nice home in a beautiful city almost completely funded by creativity. I would consider you a working class artist. Is that an accurate description?
Well, I don’t have a trust fund and everything I have to my name is a direct result of my successes and failures as an artist; so yeah it’s fair I suppose. Although being from Detroit, that’s a loaded term and I would hesitate to diminish the struggles of real working class people. I certainly don’t have a time clock to punch or an asshole boss, and I don’t have to worry about my job being sent to china. But yeah, I’m a 9-5er.
You had your first show in Tokyo this year with my gallery. It was a bit of an experimental show with me asking Japanese artists to collaborate on your work. What was your impression for a first timer? Did you notice differences in the way art shows are run in Tokyo as compared to the states? Do you want to go back?
I’m still trying to figure out what the fuck was going on there. I love Tokyo and Japan and I’m pretty sure that even if I dedicated a lifetime to exploring that culture, I wouldn’t even scratch the surface. I found it really interesting how artists and art making are generally held in very high esteem but people don’t really consume art the same way they do here, nobody gives a shit if you make paintings. Artist over there seem to have some sort of cred from either doing corporate work or manga or something else outside the realm of gallery walls before anybody pays attention to what they do. I don’t know if that’s pragmatism or crass commercialism but it’s definitely interesting.
You are part of a group show coming up in Paris at Galerie LJ. You don’t seem to do a lot of group shows. What makes this show different?
I’m thinking about heading back to Paris for a solo show in the near future so I thought I’d test the waters, make sure the Parisians and I still see eye to eye.
In December you are headed to the Art Basel Miami circus as part of theLibrary Street Collective, pop-up group show at the Wynwood Walls. You mentioned you were going for something new with this work. What are you thinking for this piece? How important is it to you at this point to grow and change as an artist?
Change is difficult at this stage of the game but I think it’s essential. There’s a lot of pressure once you reach a certain level of recognition to keep producing whatever it is that grabbed people’s attention in the first place, but that’s a dangerous trap. There’s expectations from people who follow what I do, and that’s something I’m conscious of and want to be respectful to, and then there’s also a huge economic incentive to keep producing the same kind of work over and over. At the end of the day though, if I can’t find ways to keep making things that I find interesting, then I’m full of shit and it’s dishonest and I think the work suffers. I’m always on a search for new angles and inspiration.
I was going to ask a question about your graffiti background and what you think of the trend in galleries to scoop up “street artists” for their galleries, but that’s just beating a dead horse, so never mind. Instead, I am interested in how and if you compartmentalize the method for making pieces for sale in a gallery verses installation verses commercial work? Are you open to direction while doing commercial jobs?
Haha, thanks for not making me talk about street art. As far as all the other stuff, I don’t even think there’s a difference anymore, I used to think of those things as separate, but now I just lean towards making what I make and if people are interested in showing it, or buying it, or posing for an Instagram photo with it, then so be it. I never thought I’d make it this far – and I’m talking about life – let alone making a living as an artist, so really, it’s all cake from here.
Le Parcours Saint-Germain, en partenariat avec la FIAC, ouvre les festivités de l’art contemporain et revient pour sa 12e édition du 21 au 31 octobre 2014.
Pendant la FIAC et au delà, le Parcours Saint-Germain vous invite à une promenade artistique dans le quartier de Saint-Germain-des-Prés. Cafés, boutiques, hôtels et lieux emblématiques du quartier se transforment en lieux d’exposition.
Clara Fanise fait partie de la quarantaine d’artistes invités à contribuer à l’édition 2014 consacrée au “Support Papier”. Ses dessins seront exposés chez le joailler Frey Wille, 5 rue de Sèvres (métro Saint-Sulpice). Parmi les autres artistes invités, retrouvez Artus de la Villéon, Shirley Jaffe, Paul McCarthy, Le Gun, Sylvie Bonnot, …
Vernissage le mardi 21 octobre jusqu’à 21h.
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ARTS ET SCÈNES | On aime leur caractère bien trempé, dans la pierre, l’encre ou le papier. Peu connus du grand public, vous allez entendre parler de ces street artistes. Premier rendez-vous : Nuit Blanche, samedi 4 octobre.
A trente-six ans, l’Américaine est l’une des rares femmes a évoluer sur la scène internationale du street art. Née sous le nom de Caledonia Curry, Swoon a grandi en Floride. Douée pour le dessin depuis son plus jeune âge, elle part à New York pour étudier au Pratt Institute de Brooklyn. Dix ans après, ses oeuvres figurent dans les collections des plus grands musées américains et étrangers. La jeune femme a pourtant commencé son parcours en fuyant le milieu de l’art, trop marchand à son goût. Dans la rue, elle trouve son terrain d’expérimentation. Le contact humain du terrain ouvre les portes de l’imagination dont elle a besoin pour s’exprimer. Sur les murs, elle commence par coller des représentations de personnages de son entourage. Photographie, gravure, installations en volume de papier recyclé ou de carton… sa palette créative s’enrichit. Humaniste engagée, elle prête son talent au soutien des populations déshéritées. Ou défend l’environnement seule ou collectivement à travers des installations spectaculaires comme ce radeau de matériaux récupérés, lancé en 2009 sur les eaux de la Sérénissime, en pleine Biennale de Venise…
Pour Nuit Blanche, Swoon investit l’ancienne gare Masséna. Son thème d’intervention : la maternité, un sujet de réflexion qui l’anime depuis qu’elle a perdu sa mère. La souffrance, la fragilité constituent la trame de son travail. Avec ses portraits de femmes, d’enfants, de vieillards, ses oeuvres en volumes, graciles, Swoon replace la nature humaine au coeur de la ville dans des lieux mêmes où celle-ci est trop souvent malmenée,voire abandonnée, dans un hangar, sur un trottoir. Swoon sera bientôt représentée à la Maison des arts de Créteil, au sein d l’exposition collective In Out street art et graffiti, qui rassemble les oeuvres du collectionneur français, Nicolas Laugero Lasserre.
A l’occasion de la prochaine édition de Nuit Blanche à Paris le samedi 4 octobre 2014 (direction artistique José-Manuel Gonçalvès, directeur du CentQuatre), Swoon habille l’ancienne Gare Masséna située sur la petite ceinture, dans le cadre du parcours consacré au street art dans le 13e arrondissement.
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By Chloé Tabur for Derm-ink.com
English version: http://www.derm-ink.com/interview-with-jessica-harrison/
Version française : http://www.derm-ink.com/jessica-harrison/
Jessica Harrison is a young artist who questions our vision and connection to the body through sculpture. The LJ Gallery in Paris receives her brand new works set till the 24th of June after the first instance of the Hey! exhibition. With « Flash », Jessica Harrison investigates the tattoo in a surprising angle, as an independent element of the body. To better understand her approach, Derm-Ink has asked her some questions.
In all your work, it seems that you’re constantly challenging our vision and connection with the body? Why are you so passionate by this topic?
That is exactly what I’m trying to do – the body is what connects us all, it is something we all have and we all experience in different shared ways. I am not particularly interested in the figure, but sometimes it is a useful tool to explore our idea of the body, which is almost always a different shape to the figure. The subject of the body fascinates me because I consider it as something permanent, in the sense that it is always present in our perception and our experience of the world. By unreeling aspects of this perception and with experience, I hope to understand more about the body itself and therefore be able to use it in new and interesting ways within sculpture, to present alternative ways of thinking about the body to the viewer.
« Flash », your exhibition, is about tattoos. You don’t have any tattoo yourself, what motivated you to explore this topic?
I’m using the tattoo in this series to explore the skin space rather than creating any tattoo art itself, which is a completely different thing. Tattooing is not a painting or a drawing onto a static plane, it is incredibly sculptural, literally, threading ink into a moving surface. So although some of the pieces are called ‘Painted Ladies’ in reference to the old term for a tattooed woman, they, in fact, draw from something incredibly sculptural and active in space: the skin.
Most people would perhaps think about a tattoo as something embedded within the skin, as ink held between layers of the dermis in a very permanent, static and unchanging way until we die – this permanency (the aspect of tattoos that prevents me from getting one) is obviously becoming less than an issue in our appearance as the tattoo continues to boom in popularity in Western culture, across all ages.
In my practice, I’m trying to look beyond the traditional model of the skin in which this idea of the tattoo sits, and position the skin not as a dividing wall between ‘inside’ and ‘outside’ the body, but instead as a space where inside and outside, body and world mingle.Contrary to the image of a sack that contains the body, the skin is a space where things meet, shift and become less well defined, as an environment that draws things together. Thinking about through skin, in this way places the tattoo in a much more undefined and interesting position, as something simultaneously both inside and outside of the body, something that is perhaps not part of the body at all. In opening out the skin from its traditional structure, I hope to begin to unravel the drawn line of the tattoo from the skinpresenting it within a sculptural space.
In your opinion, what do tattoos tell about our connection with our bodies, for both, tattooed and non-tattooed people?
I think the tattoo is a very potent way of presenting yourself to the rest of the world – it certainly suggests to me an unimaginable decisive quality about a person – I’m famous incredibly indecisive and deliberate about ridiculously unimportant options for hours/days/months. I think the bodily connection for tattoos is impossible to pin down, as it will be different for everybody – some will get a tattoo to fit in with a certain fashionable ‘look’ whereas others will do it to try and feel more individual, and outside of group of people. Some people will be tattooed to feel more connected with their bodies and some will do it to remember an event, or an entirely different person. The process of tattooing is fascinating to me, and I think overall piercing and etching into the body can tell us so much about not what the person necessarily wants to look like, but what stories they are trying to tell, or inscribe on their memory, what connection they are trying to make to their past or future.
For this exhibition, you are presenting a new series of ceramic figurines. Those mass produced objects represent an idealized and old-fashioned representation of feminity. What can you tell us about covering them with old-school tattoos or mutilating them?
The tattoo imagery I have used in the new work is all from war-time source imagery, to try and reference an era before the popularity boom of the tattoo when it maybe pointed more towards a particular kind of harsher life, or a more threatening kind of person. The idea in the ‘Painted Ladies’ was to present opposing outer layers, contrasting skins, where masculine illustrations are intertwined with overtly over-idealised feminine costume. The viewer is presented with the question of what we are supposed to consider beautiful, which costume to believe.
Likewise with the ‘Broken’ figurines – in their unaltered state they represent the image of an impossibly fair-skinned ‘perfect’ woman. I was attracted to these found ceramics precisely because of this image they portray of the female body – my aim was to counter it and present its opposite within itself. This was easily done by taking a hammer and chisel to them, breaking apart the hollow cast pieces and ‘revealing ‘ the interior, a standard formula in Western knowledge for making discoveries about the body. The female interior is a space still laced with taboo in a way that the male interior is not, and for me this gender bias of what is most often an invisible space in our everyday lives was a fascinating and important one to address.
What do those figurines mean to you?
The ceramics from the ‘Broken’ and ‘Painted Lady’ series of sculptures are very bland to me in their ‘perfection’ before I break them or paint over them. I think they make more sense in their altered forms…
The « Hand Drawn » objects are sculptures made from the images of the old flash (painted on the ceramic figurines) as if the tattoos had been torn out from the skin, to be independent images. What did you want to express in this work?
The ‘Hand Drawn’ objects were made to juxtapose the ‘perfect’ mass produced casts of the ‘Painted Ladies’, a reaction to the smooth, hard, cold shapes of the figurines. I wanted to make something much more fleshy, that described the movement of a tattoo within the living body, something that wasn’t painted on, but part of the skin space. The pieces were each made very quickly by hand modeling – I spent an average of 10 seconds shaping each piece. This quick hand-made process is visible in the fingerprints left behind in each shape, although it sits oddly against the finely glazed surface, where I tried to paint the colours and details of the images as accurately as possible. This contrast was intended to make the pieces like they had been drawn out from the body, that this is how they might feel if you could hold a tattoo in your hands. Although existing in various degrees of skill and delicacy, any tattoo is a fundamentally handmade image, drawn for the moving body, for a shifting surface that is constantly growing, shedding, changing in colour and texture. A tattoo moves as the body moves, a three-dimensional object drawn into the three-dimensional body.
With the « Hand Drawn » objects, you are showing that those traditional flash tattoos still have a visual impact and meaning, even after years. They evolve through time with the skin. They are existing independently of the body, they come from the popular culture and imagination, beyond personality or taste, and have been reproduced over and over again since over a hundred years.
This is one of the aspects of the tattoo that fascinates me – the reproduction of the image across different bodies over different times and how the meaning of those images changes, or sometimes remains exactly the same. In making the ‘Hand Drawn’ objects, I was almost thinking about the tattoo before it was part of the first body it was drawn upon, when it was maybe the image of a woman, the tattoo artist had met or seen in a magazine, and all of the different layers of skin has travelled through before ending up as a model in my hands.
In the paintings « badges », the flash tattoos are becoming embroidered badges. Is it a way to prove that the skin can be like any canvas?
The idea of embroidering the badges was really to create a continuing line of my own narrative within the concept of the tattoo, so they could be reproduced and shared through many different people and groups, almost continuing the development of the images from their conception in the early 20th century into a new era. I don’t really like to think about the skin as a canvas, more like a way of bringing together threads, a space where they can be knitted together to create new meaning. Embroidering the patches, but not providing a surface, frame or item on which they should be attached, they represent a sort of mingling of the images, a narrative of my own thought processes in exploring the original flash art.
What did your exhibition, « flash », teach you about the body, the skin and tattooing?
From exploring the skin space through the tattoo, I have been allowed to completely reconsider the relationship between the image and the skin, something that I had been avoiding in previous series of work as something too specific to the individual figure. I have found that marks and images upon the skin are not necessarily part of the skin at all, but instead the skin serves as a means by which fleshing out an idea or story; filled in, drawn out of one place into another.
After all this work around tattoos, would you like to get one?
No – definitely not – I’m still too indecisive!
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